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Post by Mick Trimming on Nov 14, 2009 19:24:58 GMT -5
LOL this is my first time playing brett. I just know a lot of people here from other games that's all.
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Post by Jaison Robinson on Nov 14, 2009 22:02:25 GMT -5
Answer me this Kelly and Laura, I know you keep repeating and repating like tiresome little dogs that Natalie is playing suuuuuuuuch a good game, (probably because out of everyone in the merge you're the only 2 she didn't screw over), but if she's suuuuuuuch a good player, why can't she survive without the immunity necklace?
It's because she's not that great a player. Remember Tina from Survivor 2? She made similar shots to Natalie, dumped Jerri and Amber, dumped Rodger etc but still she never needed one single immunity, because she was that great a player. Natalie is stupid for having made too many alliances and it all corrupting in her face, and it will show in the final tribal council when only the people she decided to carry along, Laura and Natalie, vote for her.
To be an ultimate survivor there has to be a balance between controlling the game and being a totally despicable snake that pretty much alienates everyone bar 2 people. This is why Rob didn't win in All Stars. This is why Sugar didn't win in Gabon. Yes they did make more controlling strategic moves, but because they made way too many, people would rather vote for the people like Amber and Bob who made a respectably sized number of moves and managed to look like they weren't doing anything and keeping face. Tina from s2 however was a star, because she was just as much as a snake as Natalie yet managed to keep face. Does Natalie size up to Tina? Eff no. Nowhere close. Natale has fallen into a hole that she can't get out.
Now you two can argue all you want because I know you will (obviously LOL) but just remember that had Natalie chosen Marissa and Ashley over you two, I'm sure you'd be barking up the other tree.
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Post by Mick Trimming on Nov 14, 2009 22:37:32 GMT -5
lol thanks for calling me not deserving to be in the game Jaison
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Post by Laura Morett on Nov 14, 2009 23:47:14 GMT -5
Natalie's head has been in this game the entire time. I mean, Jaison, I hardly knew you were around, and almost totally forgot about you. We talked some but then you went MIA. Natalie made alliances, she kicked butt in challenges, she was personable, and she took me under her wing with Mick when I came to your tribe, since me, Kelly and Erik were on the outs, I had to do something to stay around, so I sided with the two strongest people in the game (Natalie & Mick), and grew good friendships with both because we were constantly in communication, constantly our heads were in the game.
When Betsy messaged me about a counter-alliance, I was debating it, but I realized none of you were active in communicating, so I knew that it would've been a lost cause, plus I wanted to stay true to the people who stayed true to me. Loyalty goes a long way for me.
John, sorry I voted you out, but there was never an incentive to do otherwise. And Brett, I didn't vote for you, I voted Kelly (sorry girl, it was before we started talking). And I didn't vote for Kelly in the end either (funny how the only Galu person I voted for was John...once again, sorry dear, but I wasn't given any other options).
I dunno why I started saying that. My main point is that Natalie, even though she has won a lot of challenges, also has her mind in the game and is focused on getting to the end. Marisa and Ashley have done jack squat, Russell came alive finally after he realized people were targeting him, and you (Jaison) and Betsy were...background pretty much.
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Post by Betsy Bolan on Nov 15, 2009 7:51:27 GMT -5
I wasn't in the background. I did everything I could to take Natalie's group out. But everyone had to go to her and suck up to her Oh and btw, I was the one who contacted you first. You came to Foa Foa and didn't even bother talking to me. It's funny how you say we weren't active in communication but I never saw you online on AIM
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Post by Kelly Sharbaugh on Nov 15, 2009 12:27:19 GMT -5
Oh please, Natalie was the one who TRICKED Ashley into "using" her idol and flushing it out. Strategy much? She's a comp whore, so the fuck what, people who win immunities deserve to win just as much. You're all just jealous you couldn't get her out. Sorry to see you here Laura. WHAT UP GIRRRRL! <3 I wanted you in the finals. :/
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Post by Laura Morett on Nov 15, 2009 13:29:27 GMT -5
Thanks Kelly girl! Sorry I had you pegged wrong before, glad we cleared things up!
And Betsy, if you had such a master plan, and Natalie doesn't have any plans, why is it that you're here and she isn't? Sure, she won Immunities, but you could've taken out someone in her alliance (like Mick), but instead you didn't. That shows she had more control than you in how the votes went.
I hope Ashley comes here next.
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Post by Betsy Bolan on Nov 15, 2009 15:03:27 GMT -5
Thanks Kelly girl! Sorry I had you pegged wrong before, glad we cleared things up! And Betsy, if you had such a master plan, and Natalie doesn't have any plans, why is it that you're here and she isn't? Sure, she won Immunities, but you could've taken out someone in her alliance (like Mick), but instead you didn't. That shows she had more control than you in how the votes went. I hope Ashley comes here next. When did I say Natalie didn't have any plans? Don't put words in my mouth. I was just commenting about your background comment
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Post by Jaison Robinson on Nov 15, 2009 16:30:27 GMT -5
Natalie's head has been in this game the entire time. I mean, Jaison, I hardly knew you were around, and almost totally forgot about you. We talked some but then you went MIA. Natalie made alliances, she kicked butt in challenges, she was personable, and she took me under her wing with Mick when I came to your tribe, since me, Kelly and Erik were on the outs, I had to do something to stay around, so I sided with the two strongest people in the game (Natalie & Mick), and grew good friendships with both because we were constantly in communication, constantly our heads were in the game. When Betsy messaged me about a counter-alliance, I was debating it, but I realized none of you were active in communicating, so I knew that it would've been a lost cause, plus I wanted to stay true to the people who stayed true to me. Loyalty goes a long way for me. John, sorry I voted you out, but there was never an incentive to do otherwise. And Brett, I didn't vote for you, I voted Kelly (sorry girl, it was before we started talking). And I didn't vote for Kelly in the end either (funny how the only Galu person I voted for was John...once again, sorry dear, but I wasn't given any other options). I dunno why I started saying that. My main point is that Natalie, even though she has won a lot of challenges, also has her mind in the game and is focused on getting to the end. Marisa and Ashley have done jack squat, Russell came alive finally after he realized people were targeting him, and you (Jaison) and Betsy were...background pretty much. Laura I was very active with a lot of people...just not you. Don't just immediately assume I was like Betsy because I didn't talk to you. At first I talked to you out of obligation just to help my game, but then I realised I didn't like you and that it wouldn't benefit me anyway. You keep saying again and again that Natalie did this, Natalie did that, and that she's still here and we're not, but the only reason she's still there is because of that thing around her neck. I still think that Marissa and maybe Russell have played better games because they've made a number of moves without even becoming targets. Laura do you even know what's happened in this game? Or are you just so blinded by the Natalie bubble that you don't really know or see anything that's going on other than what she's doing?
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Post by Kelly Sharbaugh on Nov 15, 2009 16:35:44 GMT -5
A Natalie bubble? Um, okay. Maybe she just knows a good game when she sees it?
AND JAISON THE ONLY REASON YOU LEFT WHEN I DID WAS BECAUSE WE ALL THOUGHT YOU WERE INACTIVE!
Russell not being a target and making moves? Please. Me and him were allies until I turned on him and the only move I thought he did was backing out on voting me out and switched his vote to Betsy. Only because I confronted him, I'm guessing.
And Marisa? Don't get me started on that bitch. She made moves? No. She said she had to "stick with her original Foa Foa tribe" People at merge who STICK with their old tribe and Pagong the other tribe is a good move, BUT it's also a pussy and safe move. Someone who has ZERO game just sticks with their old tribe. Natalie was able to get me, Laura, and Mick (Two Galus and one Foa Foa) and we dominated the first half of the merge.
Sure, we were Natalie's posse, but she was in charge and controlling most of the game.
And stop bringing up her winning immunity, just because you all can't win a SINGLE competition in this game don't bash her competitiveness.
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Post by Betsy Bolan on Nov 15, 2009 16:48:42 GMT -5
Like she had to do anything to get you
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Post by Jaison Robinson on Nov 15, 2009 20:27:04 GMT -5
Again, neither of you have responded to the fact that she would've been out if she didn't have that thing around her neck. I don't call that good gameplay. Relying on immunity. I'm not stupid I can see that she's made moves (while Marissa and Russell have also made moves, you girls wouldn't know that), but Marissa and Russell don't rely on the necklace, or the HII or whatever.
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Post by Jaison Robinson on Nov 15, 2009 20:28:32 GMT -5
It's obvious that you guys are really good friends with her and it's fine that you wanna defend her, but when you say that I'm not voting with my head, that pisses me off, because I've been trying to explain for like, a ga-jillion yeeeears why Natalie isn't deserving of the title at least with the competition. But it's alright if you guys want to vote with your hearts, go right ahead.
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Post by Kelly Sharbaugh on Nov 15, 2009 21:48:50 GMT -5
Voting with our heads, bby*
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Post by Jaison Robinson on Nov 15, 2009 22:21:54 GMT -5
anyway I'm tired of being Mr Grouch, it was fun at first but now I'm bored. So given Natalie's track record of winning immunities (Looool let's not go there ) and assuming it is a final 2, who do you guys think she'll take? Ashley or Russell?
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